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Matthew 22: 36-40 Law Law? ... Romans 8:2 Law Law? Comments?

Many seem to think the second "law" of Mt 22 law law and the second "law" of Rom 8 law law is Godly, but it clearly states "the second (law) is like unto the first": it's "law"; And in the case of Rom 8 the first is clearly sin and death. Reason: law the strength of sin's death sting (1Cor 15:56). Not to mention the second law in Rom 8 law law is life in CJ, which is mirrorly the reverse of JC, which is the only foundation laid we should build on. Many fly high via the law of aerodynamics till this law gives place to the law of gravity. In the most recent case in Armenia, in the black sea, there were no survivors. All law, written in stone & in ink, is to be done away (2Cor 3), because it's a ministration of condemnation (sin imputation) and a ministration of death. When no law, no sin imputed (Rom 4:15; 5:13), and thereby no death sting (1Cor 15:56; James 1:15).

Public Comments

  1. I'm sure that what you say is very interesting and relevant to you but, I'm sorry, I cannot see your point. What are you asking? Alternatively, are you making some sort of statement?
  2. Not sure if there is a question hiding in here :-) but there is a lot of contradiction. 'Laws' in science are not the same as religious laws but a method of predicting results through interpretation of data. Religeous laws are open to interpretation depending on your agenda and based on the "because it is" school of thought. Peace out
  3. Lock yourself in a room. Don't talk to anyone, breathe deeply. It will all be ok, don't listen to the voices. Please never have children, the world isn't ready for it.
  4. You are right that law was to teach people to live a Godly life. Christ fulfilled the law. With the Redemption, forgiveness was in place by the Final Blood Sacrifice. It was given by grace by the mercy of God.
  5. Didn't you get the parable "plow the field and don't look back. Your wasting time arguing the words of god to unbelievers when in fact you are suppose to spread the good news to everyone and go on so that all has received the word of god and that Jesus saved us all from death that believes in him.
  6. Rom. 3:20,28; Gal. 2:16,21; 3:2,5,10; Eph. 2:8-9 - many Christians err in their understanding of what Paul means by "works of the law” in his teaching on justification. Paul’s teaching that we are not justified by “works of the law” refer to the law of Moses or to any legal system that makes God our debtor. They do not refer to good works done in grace with faith in Christ. This makes sense when we remember that Paul's mission was to teach that salvation was also for the Gentiles who were not subject to the "works of the law." Here is the proof: James 2:24 – compare the verse “a man is justified by works and not by faith alone” to Gal. 2:16 – “a man is not justified by works of the law,” and Rom. 3:20,28 – “no human being will be justified in His sight by works of the law.” James 2:24 appears to be inconsistent with Gal. 2:16 and Rom. 3:20,28 until one realizes that the Word of God cannot contradict itself. This means that the “works” in James 2:24 are different from the “works of the law in Gal. 2:16 and Rom. 3:20,28. James is referring to “good works” (e.g.,clothing the naked; giving food to the poor) and Paul is referring to the “Mosaic law” (which included both the legal, moral and ceremonial law) or any works which oblige God to give us payment. Here is more proof: Rom. 3:20,28; Gal. 2:16 - Paul's phrase for "works of the law" in the Greek is "ergon nomou" which means the Mosaic law or Torah and refers to the teachings (legal, moral) and works (ceremonial) that gave the Jews the knowledge of sin, but not an escape from sin. We have further proof of this from the Dead Sea Scrolls which provide the Hebrew equivalent ("hrvt ysm") meaning "deeds of the law," or Mosaic law. James in James 2 does not use "ergon nomou." He uses "ergois agathois." Therefore, Paul’s "works of the law" and James' "works" are entirely different types of works. Again, they could never contradict each other because the Scriptures are the inspired word of God. Rom. 3:29 - Paul confirms that works of the law in this case refer to the Mosaic law by rhetorically asking "Or is God the God of the Jews only?" It does not mean "good works." Rom. 4:9-17 - Paul provides further discussion that righteousness God seeks in us does not come from Mosaic law, but through faith. But notice that Paul also never says “faith alone.” Rom. 9:31-32 - righteousness is pursued through faith, not works of the law. Again, "works of law" does not mean "good works." Rom. 11:6,11 - justification is no longer based on "works" of the law, but on the grace of Christ. Why? Because salvation is also for the Gentiles. Rom. 15:9-12 - Paul explains that Christ also saves the Gentiles. Therefore, "works of law" are no longer required. Acts 13:39 - Luke also confirms this by providing that we have been “freed from the law of Moses.” This is the “works of the law” from which we have been freed. Rom. 3:20,28 - in addition to the Mosaic law, as stated above, "works of the law" can also refer to anything that makes God a debtor to us. This is because law requires payment, but grace is a free gift from God. Therefore, faith must be behind every good work in order for it to be a work of grace. If not, it is a work of debt, and we cannot obligate God to do anything for us. Rom. 4:3-4 - Paul refers to works apart from God's grace. We do not obligate God to give us grace like an employee obligates his employer to pay wages. Faith in Christ must be behind our good works in order for it to be considered a work of grace; otherwise, it is a work of law or obligation. Rom. 6:23 – this is why Paul says the "wages" of sin is death. Eternal life is a free gift from God. We cannot obligate God to pay us for our works; otherwise, we are in a system of law, not a system of grace. Rom. 11:6 – Paul says that if justification is now based on grace, it is no longer on the basis of works; otherwise, grace would no longer be grace. Rom. 11:35 - it is impossible to obligate God for payment, and sinful to think we can. We cannot do "works of the law" to obligate God. We are not in a debtor/creditor relationship with God. He owes us nothing. Instead, we are in a Father/child covenant relationship with Him, and He will reward us for being faithful. Gal. 6:8-9 - the earnings referred to here are from God's grace. It is a free gift, not an obligation. This underscores that our relationship with God is Father/son and daughter, not employer/employee. Rom. 8:14-17; Heb. 12:5-11 - these texts further emphasize our father/son relationship with God. Our relationship is familial, not legal. Rom. 7:6 - we are now discharged from the "law," that is "works of the law." We now serve God in faith working in love. Rom. 10:4 - Christ is the end of the "law." We are now justified by faith in Christ, not faith in the law. Rom. 13:8,10 - loving one another is fulfilling the new law of Christ. This is internal and personal, not external and impersonal. Gal. 2:16 - again, man is not justified by "works of the law." Again, Paul is referring to the Mosaic law and anything which views God as a debtor to us. Gal. 2:19,21 - justification "through the law" means justification through the Mosaic law or a legal system that makes God a debtor to us. Gal. 3:10 – shows that "works of the law" refers to the "book of the law" which was the strict and impersonal Mosaic law of the Old Testament. Gal. 3:17 - this "law" came 430 years after Abraham. So "works of law" here clearly refer to the Mosaic law, not "good works." Gal. 3:13; 4:4-5 - in fact, the "works of the law" (not good works in God's grace) is a curse from which Christ freed us. Gal. 3:19 - these "works of law" were only good for showing us our sinfulness, but not teaching us how to live. Gal. 5:4,14; 6:2 - the "law" is of no use. The new law is the law of Christ, which is faith working through love. Eph. 2:8-9 - we have been saved by grace through faith, not because of "works," lest anyone boast. This much-quoted verse by Protestants refers to the "works" of the Mosaic law or any works performed in a legalistic sense, where we view God as a debtor to us, and not as our heavenly Father. Paul is teaching us that, with the coming of Christ, we are now saved by grace through faith, not by Mosaic or legal works. This is why Paul refers to “works of ourselves” and so we can’t “boast.” Paul says the same thing about “works” Rom. 4:2,4 – if Abraham was justified by “works,” he would have something to “boast” about. Here, the wages are not counted as grace, but debt. “Boasting” does not attribute works to God, but to oneself. But good works done in faith are necessary for justification (James 2:24, etc.) because we receive rewards by grace, not by legal obligation, and we attribute these works to God, not ourselves. Eph. 2:10 - in quoting Ephesians 2:8-9, Protestants invariably ignore the very next verse. Right after Paul's teaching on "works" referring to Mosaic law, Paul says we are created in Christ for "good works" - a clear distinction between "works of law" (Mosaic law/legal payment) and "good works" (law of Christ/reward of grace). Eph. 2:11-16 - this section further explains Paul's reference to "works" which relates to following the Jewish legal ordinances. Eph. 3:17 - Christ may dwell in your hearts through faith, but we also must be rooted and grounded in love.
  7. My alarmed awakening is met by a light of brightly shinning; but the light emits peace that all past souls sought, as they obeyed the call to come home. Uncontrollably, I sing about the nearness of the cross where Jesus wrought everlasting life. My harkens are for the multitudes singing beautiful benedictions about the healing stream
  8. What exactly are you asking?
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